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    <name>Richard Goodwin</name>
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  <tagline>Technology news and views</tagline>
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">What's your next computer?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Jeffrey Lee (Phlamethrower)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=9790&amp;page=2#108193</id>
    <modified>2008-08-29T21:45:25Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-29T21:45:25Z</issued>
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    <summary
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      mode="escaped">Another successful procedure...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Another successful procedure:<br /><br />New Radeon 4870 + PSU that won't melt when I turn the computer on = Crysis @ 30-40fps, 1920x1200, everything on High. Hurrah! (Although the real reason for the new card was that STALKER Clear Sky is out next week, and my old card only manages ~20fps in STALKER:SoC and stutters horribly whenever there are lightning effects. Plus I just received my bonus.)<br /><br />The only downside to the 4870 seems to be that the fan is capable of being monstorously loud. So far the only time I've heard it at full-tilt is for the few seconds after turning the computer on; for the rest of the time it's at a much more manageable level. During regular desktop use it spends most of the time silent, only occasionally speeding up a bit (which is probably more annoying than if it were to constantly stay at the slightly-faster speed). Playing ETQW with headphones I didn't notice any extra noise in the background, but during the quiet bits of Crysis I did - so hopefully it won't annoy me too much for most of the games I'll be playing. The noise during Crysis was also nowhere near the noise it makes when you turn it on, so hopefully it will never reach full fan speed during actual use.<br /><br />Also the current drivers seem to break GLQuake <img src='/images/smileys/unhappy.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="unhappy" /><br /><br />[Edited by <a href="http://www.iconbar.com/forums/profile.php?username=Phlamethrower">Phlamethrower</a> at 22:46, 29/8/2008]</p><p>Posted by Jeffrey Lee (Phlamethrower) in General<br />
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    <title
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      <name>Andrew C. Poole (andypoole)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10921&amp;page=1#108192</id>
    <modified>2008-08-29T16:48:36Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-29T16:48:36Z</issued>
    <created>2008-08-29T16:48:36Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">Isn't it Mark Williams, who played Olaf Petersen?  Looks about right..</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote>Who's that on the right?<br /><br />[Edited by <a href="http://www.iconbar.com/forums/profile.php?username=rich">rich</a> at 08:08, 29/8/2008. embedding images from other people's sites is bad]</blockquote><br /><br />Isn't it Mark Williams, who played Olaf Petersen?  Looks about right..<br /><br />Andy.</p><p>Posted by Andrew C. Poole (andypoole) in The Playpen<br />
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    <title
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    <author>
      <name>Peter Howkins (flibble)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10919&amp;page=1#108191</id>
    <modified>2008-08-29T10:06:52Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-29T10:06:52Z</issued>
    <created>2008-08-29T10:06:52Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">Hmm, sounds like I'll give TNG a miss too. I already have the PC and PS1 versions, and they both use the rubbish crystal collection (rather than the shop) system of upgrades that TNG has</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Hmm, sounds like I'll give TNG a miss too. I already have the PC and PS1 versions, and they both use the rubbish crystal collection (rather than the shop) system of upgrades that TNG has <img src='/images/smileys/unhappy.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="unhappy" /><br /><br />And now you say it's performance is crap and save game doesn't work ...</p><p>Posted by Peter Howkins (flibble) in Games<br />
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    <title
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      <name>Peter van der Vos (peterv)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10912&amp;page=1#108190</id>
    <modified>2008-08-29T08:11:06Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-29T08:11:06Z</issued>
    <created>2008-08-29T08:11:06Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">On a Risc PC the problem is the filesize of SVN (4M), this takes about a second to load from harddisk. On an Iyonix I found it workable.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote> SVN is *really* slow on RISC OS. I tried putting my local working copy in a ramdisk to see if it would be quicker, and it is, but it's still way slower than on my relatively sluggish Linux box. </blockquote><br /><br />On a Risc PC the problem is the filesize of SVN (4M), this takes about a second to load from harddisk. On an Iyonix I found it workable.</p><p>Posted by Peter van der Vos (peterv) in Programming<br />
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">A test for the film buffs</title>
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      <name>VinceH (VincceH)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10864&amp;page=1#108189</id>
    <modified>2008-08-28T23:34:37Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-28T23:34:37Z</issued>
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    <summary
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      <![CDATA[<p>And the answer is...<br /><br />The scene in the film doesn't quite match what I remember from seeing it as a kid, but that's more than likely because I was a kid a very long time ago. I am therefore positive that I have, at long last, filled in the hole in my mind.<br /><br />Now I just need to dig another one... <img src='/images/smileys/wink.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Posted by VinceH (VincceH) in The Playpen<br />
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    <title
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      <name>VinceH (VincceH)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10864&amp;page=1#108188</id>
    <modified>2008-08-28T21:35:34Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-28T21:35:34Z</issued>
    <created>2008-08-28T21:35:34Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">But I now have, and I'm about to watch it.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote>I couldn't find the DVD when I searched yesterday. <img src='/images/smileys/unhappy.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="unhappy" /></blockquote><br /><br />But I now have, and I'm about to watch it.<br /><br />So, judging by the length, I'll know shortly after midnight if I really have finally identified the film I've been looking for all these years. My remote control finger is positively wobbling with excitement...</p><p>Posted by VinceH (VincceH) in The Playpen<br />
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    <title
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      <name>Jeffrey Lee (Phlamethrower)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10889&amp;page=1#108187</id>
    <modified>2008-08-28T21:16:30Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-28T21:16:30Z</issued>
    <created>2008-08-28T21:16:30Z</created>
    <summary
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      mode="escaped">Hmm, I've just spotted that the latest ROOL code dump contains the RO kernel &amp; HAL source. So apart from the fact that the USB and video source hasn't been released yet, it looks like it's game on for anyone brave/insane enough to try porting RISC OS to new hardware.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I've just spotted that the latest ROOL code dump contains the RO kernel &amp;amp; HAL source. So apart from the fact that the USB and video source hasn't been released yet, it looks like it's game on for anyone brave/insane enough to try porting RISC OS to new hardware. (Or game on for someone to try poking the SoundDMA source until sound plays nice with IOP DMA transfers, or to see if the Iyonix can be coaxed into supporting Wake on Lan, or ... etc.)<br /><br />Now if only someone would hurry up and invent a Spare Time machine <img src='/images/smileys/unhappy.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="unhappy" /></p><p>Posted by Jeffrey Lee (Phlamethrower) in The Playpen<br />
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    <title
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      mode="escaped">Right On Commander!</title>
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      <name>Andrew (andrew)</name>
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    <id>http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=10907&amp;page=1#108186</id>
    <modified>2008-08-28T20:19:03Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-28T20:19:03Z</issued>
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    <summary
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      mode="escaped">There was a 3D Elite logo on the MAster Executive Edition (Tube) apparently. But the one on the show ISTR did seem post-8-bit by the colours and resolution.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote>Battlezone was 2D with a 3D perspective display.<br />So was that monster maze game they also showed.<br /><br />I'd have said there were other proper 3d games around though; flight sims and the like. There was Aviator on the BBC for example; I'm not sure whether this came out before Elite or not. However if what they really meant was full 6 degrees of freedom 3D, maybe not.<br /><br />I don't remember the advertising making a big thing of that in any case. Program makers do seem to get fixated on emphasising a particular part of the story sometimes, even if it wasn't the real focus at the time.<br /><br />Did anyone else think that they were showing images from non-BBC versions of Elite sometimes? They kept on showing this huge spinny elite logo, which ... well, maybe my memory is fallible, but how many colours was it in, anyway? Maybe it was the tube version, and used dithering I suppose.</blockquote><br /><br />There was a 3D Elite logo on the MAster Executive Edition (Tube) apparently. But the one on the show ISTR did seem post-8-bit by the colours and resolution.</p><p>Posted by Andrew (andrew) in News and features<br />
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      <name>Andrew (andrew)</name>
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    <modified>2008-08-28T20:07:58Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-28T20:07:58Z</issued>
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    <summary
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      mode="escaped">The year 1983 seems to associate with Aviator.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><blockquote>Battlezone was 2D with a 3D perspective display.<br />So was that monster maze game they also showed.<br /><br />I'd have said there were other proper 3d games around though; flight sims and the like. There was Aviator on the BBC for example; I'm not sure whether this came out before Elite or not. However if what they really meant was full 6 degrees of freedom 3D, maybe not.<br /><br />I don't remember the advertising making a big thing of that in any case. Program makers do seem to get fixated on emphasising a particular part of the story sometimes, even if it wasn't the real focus at the time.<br /><br />Did anyone else think that they were showing images from non-BBC versions of Elite sometimes? They kept on showing this huge spinny elite logo, which ... well, maybe my memory is fallible, but how many colours was it in, anyway? Maybe it was the tube version, and used dithering I suppose.</blockquote><br /><br />The year 1983 seems to associate with Aviator.<br />So it is!<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Crammond">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoff_Crammond</a><br /><br />[Edited by <a href="http://www.iconbar.com/forums/profile.php?username=andrew">andrew</a> at 21:08, 28/8/2008]</p><p>Posted by Andrew (andrew) in News and features<br />
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      <name>Andrew (andrew)</name>
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    <modified>2008-08-28T20:05:42Z</modified>
    <issued>2008-08-28T20:05:42Z</issued>
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    <summary
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      <![CDATA[<p>Remember now <img src='/images/smileys/smile.gif' width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Posted by Andrew (andrew) in News and features<br />
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