The Icon Bar Message Updates (RSS 2.0 feed) http://www.iconbar.com/forums/ Technology news and views richard@--iconbar--.com en-gb (c) The Icon Bar Message Updates 2010. All rights reserved. Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:47:54 GMT The Icon Bar Message Updates: News 15 The Icon Bar Message Updates http://www.iconbar.co.uk/images/logos/rss-TIB.gif http://www.iconbar.com/forums/ Monitors... again (CRT this time !) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114899 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114899 You can also wait until it boots, then press F12, and at the command prompt set *monitortype to whatever is appropriate for your type of monitor. Or just manually cycle through them until you get an image displaying.
Posted by Jason Togneri (filecore)
7 comments in forum ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:39:23 GMT Monitors... again (CRT this time !) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114898 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114898 I would suggest the following...
- switch on with keypad 4 pressed (switches to monitortype 4 (SVGA)
- switch on with T pressed (configures seperate sync which is needed by most monitors)

On my trusty old A3000, I also needed to change two jumpers, but I think the A5000 does not need this.

Posted by Steffen Huber (hubersn)
7 comments in forum ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:07:52 GMT Monitors... again (CRT this time !) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114897 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114897 In exceptional circumstances !Boot will not be able to turn off the configured monitor setting. In this case, with the computer switched off, press and hold down the Delete and Shift keys, then switch the computer on. You can release these keys once the RISC OS 3 initialising message appears on the screen. Yes, there is smile

In exceptional circumstances !Boot will not be able to turn off the configured monitor setting. In this case, with the computer switched off, press and hold down the Delete and Shift keys, then switch the computer on. You can release these keys once the RISC OS 3 initialising message appears on the screen.

Posted by Blind Moose (Acornut)
7 comments in forum ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:20:07 GMT StudioSound http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=8112&page=2#114896 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=8112&page=2#114896 Dear Paul
Dunno if this is the right one on facewotsit ! grin



Does anybody have a copy of the manual in PDF or JPEG format ???



Dear Paul

Can you put your email address on here in a disguised form - I can't find it on your website.

I've just received a scan of the manual in JPEG format from Henrik, and I'll send it to you and Terje, if I can have your email address.

Best wishes

Jon Robinson (Leeds)

Posted by Jon Robinson (castlevarich)
38 comments in forum ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:15:33 GMT Monitors... again (CRT this time !) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114895 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114895 Wait for it to finish booting, hit F12, then ctrl-G. If it beeps then you'll know five things... Perhaps it is. But I'm stuffed. Unless there is a "Hold down this key on boot" to set for vga.


Yes, there is smile

I'm not sure if there's a website with a full guide anywhere (all the different OS versions, etc.), but a quick google for "Acorn startup keys" returns this as the first result, which looks to be what you're after (and even features our very own filecore):

http://www.retrogamer.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=99742#p99742

If I cant "see" then I don't know how I am supposed to change monitor settings. I'm not even certain the machine is booting to desktop.


Wait for it to finish booting, hit F12, then ctrl-G. If it beeps then you'll know five things:

1. It's booted
2. You're at the command line
3. The keyboard works
4. Sound works
5. You're not deaf tongue

Posted by Jeffrey Lee (Phlamethrower)
7 comments in forum ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:06:04 GMT Monitors... again (CRT this time !) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114894 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114894 Perhaps it is. But I'm stuffed. Unless there is a "Hold down this key on boot" to set for vga. Reason being, I don'thave any other monitors/tv's I can try it with. I got the CRT out because I can't get a display on my main LCD.
If I cant "see" then I don't know how I am supposed to change monitor settings. I'm not even certain the machine is booting to desktop.

Posted by Andrew (asm1)
7 comments in forum ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:58:46 GMT Monitors... again (CRT this time !) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114891 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114891 When I was trying my A4000 with lcd monitors I had the same vga issues.
Was scared the vga port was broken, what it turned out to be however was that the first monitor couldn't accept the default resolution (of a cmos reset) that the A4000 was set to "No signal input" however the second monitor I tried (the lcd tv I use as a PC monitor) was happy with the low resolution, and on setting the resolution higher, then trying it on the original monitor, it then displayed.

Perhaps it's the same thing with your CRT. The CRT doesn't support the resolution that the A5000 is set to, and thus gives no display, but once it is set to a higher resolution then it may well display.

Chief smile

Posted by chief (chiefwhosm)
7 comments in forum ]]> Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:55:17 GMT Monitors... again (CRT this time !) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114890 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11471&page=1#114890 Rescue me before I jump out a window

Long story short I've resurrected my 8 year old 17" CRT from its resting place in my back room cupboard.

The reason for this is to test the A3000's I have and the A5000 that arrived this morning.

Looking at the A5000, I discovered a OSCillator had come loose so plugged that back in (it wasn't soldered in the first place - theres a socket at the back of the board).

Apply power.. HD spins up, and seemed to run otherwise nowt, no floppy mechanism test no "Foop" and boot etc. No Display.

Borlicks. Did a DELETE power on, thinking **** it I'll set up manually. Now seems slightly more encouraging I get the floppy grindy test and a "foop" noise from the speaker as well as the HD spinning up. However, still no display.

At this point I'm wondering whether it is my CRT thats goosed. So I grab a friend's laptop (another machine I'm supposed to be "fixing") plug that in, and "Hey presto" working CRT.

IS there a trick to this ? what do I have to do to get the CRT and A5000 playing nice ?

As far as I can tell I have everything plugged back in correctly, although I had to remove the HD cradle to refit that Oscillator, it was right at the back.

Is there anything I have missed that could be causing "NO Display" ?

Obviously not being able to "see" is really hampering my attempts to get the machine going. Any tips ?

Andrew Crybaby

[Edited by asm1 at 00:49, 29/7/2010]

Posted by Andrew (asm1)
7 comments in forum ]]> Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:47:57 GMT Endgames http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11470&page=1#114889 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=11470&page=1#114889 Also, don't confuse DOOM with DROOM!
...Acorn DOOM.
Don't forget Destiny!
Also, don't confuse DOOM with DROOM!

Posted by Trevor Johnson (trevj)
8 comments in forum ]]> Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:51:41 GMT StudioSound http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=8112&page=2#114888 http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=8112&page=2#114888 Dear Paul & Terje (if you're reading this)
Dunno if this is the right one on facewotsit ! grin


Worth a shot... Nothing on csap...


No reply from FB either... Looks like unless Chris (#1) has the source which hasn't been bascrunched, then it'll be a shed load of work...

Update : emailed Chris... reply pending...

[Edited by nodoid at 13:34, 27/7/2010]

Dear Paul & Terje (if you're reading this)

There's a version of StudioSound, dated 2007, available from here -

http://www.lym.iconbar.com/studio.htm

I don't have an Iyo (I'm still chugging away on a SA RiscPC, although I will be getting a Beagle at some stage), so I don't know whether it's 32 bit, but the BASIC code has NOT been crunched and the assembler still has comments in it, if anybody wants to take a look.

Does anybody have a copy of the manual in PDF or JPEG format ???

Best wishes Jon

Posted by Jon Robinson (castlevarich)
38 comments in forum ]]> Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:47:54 GMT