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The Icon Bar: General: Do I have to spend over 200 pounds to get broadband?
 
  Do I have to spend over 200 pounds to get broadband?
  andrew (12:06 25/8/2003)
  Revin Kevin (15:24 25/8/2003)
    ToiletDuck (18:46 25/8/2003)
      andrew (09:34 26/8/2003)
      andrew (09:43 26/8/2003)
        thedoctor (11:28 26/8/2003)
          andrew (11:45 26/8/2003)
            ToiletDuck (13:35 26/8/2003)
              andrew (13:45 26/8/2003)
                thedoctor (20:47 26/8/2003)
                  ToiletDuck (22:52 26/8/2003)
                  andrew (12:19 28/8/2003)
  takkaria (20:28 31/8/2003)
    stuartbruce (09:37 8/9/2003)
      mavhc (11:47 8/9/2003)
 
Andrew Message #45838, posted by andrew at 12:06, 25/8/2003
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Assuming BT do what they do to allow broadband access, what do I need?

Presumably some interface and a cable to the (modified?) phone socket?

Does the interface really cost that much?
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Kevin Wells Message #45847, posted by Revin Kevin at 15:24, 25/8/2003, in reply to message #45838
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Assuming BT do what they do to allow broadband access, what do I need?

Presumably some interface and a cable to the (modified?) phone socket?

Does the interface really cost that much?
Cannot remeger the price but contact rcomp

www.rcomp.co.uk

or go to Paul Vigay site as he has something on broadband as well. On www.vigay.com

With the Rcomp one you will need a network card for your computer.
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Mark Quint Message #45851, posted by ToiletDuck at 18:46, 25/8/2003, in reply to message #45847
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you just need a broadband router that has a built in modem in it (£50-£75). You then plug it into your nic, configure the machine to use the router, and the router will probably have a web interface to get adsl alive.
ADSL installation costs from £0 (some companies are doing free inst. offers) to £75.

www.ebuyer.com will have all but a risc os nic, and will save you a few £s too.
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Andrew Message #45863, posted by andrew at 09:34, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45851
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Thanks. Yes I saw the RComp one but there's no way in a million years I'd spending that much to get broadband. I'll see if Argo do something as well.
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Andrew Message #45864, posted by andrew at 09:43, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45851
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So I need
- a router
- an interface
- ADSL connection from ISP
- new software

No go, I don't know how people can afford this!
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fwibbler Message #45868, posted by fwibbler at 11:28, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45864
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So I need
- a router
- an interface
- ADSL connection from ISP
- new software

No go, I don't know how people can afford this!
Can't think of any new software you'd need.
Dabs.com sell a 1 port Conexant router for £45 or a 4 port one for £50.50
http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-search.asp?action=search&tid=334&ob=price&stab=ref
Though you'll need WXL to configure it. (Maybe O2 might do it)
Course, if you buy from them then you won't get R-Comps easy to use instructions or after sales support if anything goes wrong.

S/hand network cards go about £30-35.

The other charges (account setup and subscription fees) are what you'd pay with any OS.

It may be an inital high cost but once you have it setup and working the charges aren't that high and you'll never want to go back to Dial-up.

Cheers!
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Andrew Message #45869, posted by andrew at 11:45, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45868
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The charges are high though

e.g. Argonet >100 pounds quarterly, well over 3 times what I pay at the moment!!

It's too fussy and expensive for me at the moment. I'll need to wait to see if there is a cheap and simple all-in-one package released at some point.

[Edited by andrew at 12:46, 26/8/2003]
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Mark Quint Message #45871, posted by ToiletDuck at 13:35, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45869
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ADSL prices will not go below £20/month for a long time imo. A few companies do cut down packages around that price, but because BT charge them ~£15 anyway, they have to make money.
www.adslguide.org.uk and www.net4nowt.com give good, detailed lists of the adsl ISPs, so you can find the cheapest one, but a little over twice the price of an argonet dial-up subscription you get an internet connection thats 10 times faster, always one, doesnt not have any call charges, and has a much lower latency. As said before, once you get broadband, you wont want to go back :)
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Andrew Message #45872, posted by andrew at 13:45, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45871
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So you're connected with RISC OS?
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fwibbler Message #45890, posted by fwibbler at 20:47, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45872
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I am and I think you'll find that Free-online offer a basic service for about £19 per month.

I guess it all depends on how much you will use the internet.

Also, much as I like WXL, if thats what you use for browsing then you won't see much (if any) speed increase with Broadband simply on account of how slow WXL is.
Obviously Oregano 1 will be much faster, Fresco and O2 even more so and Netsurf will be blisteringly fast.
Of course large file downloads with any browser (including WXL) will occur at about 55-60k per second.

Cheers!
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Mark Quint Message #45896, posted by ToiletDuck at 22:52, 26/8/2003, in reply to message #45890
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Our RiscPC is all networked up at home, although I generally use windoze pcs, esp. for internetting. I'd like to get back to using the RiscPC more, but currently its monitor has priority with the family pc, and I've got 2 of my own PCs to use.
We dont use ADSL at home (rather a fixed-wireless service) but my uni house that I'll be living with 3 other friends we will be getting a 1Mbit adsl line from Nildram. Its not going to be the cheapest way of doing it, but between 4 people its each going to cost us less money than a dialup sub each, and 20 times quicker :E
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Andrew Message #45935, posted by andrew at 12:19, 28/8/2003, in reply to message #45890
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I am and I think you'll find that Free-online offer a basic service for about £19 per month.

I guess it all depends on how much you will use the internet.

Also, much as I like WXL, if thats what you use for browsing then you won't see much (if any) speed increase with Broadband simply on account of how slow WXL is.
Obviously Oregano 1 will be much faster, Fresco and O2 even more so and Netsurf will be blisteringly fast.
Of course large file downloads with any browser (including WXL) will occur at about 55-60k per second.

Cheers!
Netsurf?
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Andrew Sidwell Message #46060, posted by takkaria at 20:28, 31/8/2003, in reply to message #45838
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NTL do broadband cheaply. 25 quid a month for 600kbps upsteam and 128kbps downstream, I believe. The initial setup fee isn't that much if you're already on NTL.

It requires DHCP, and that's all. Select's DHCP may work with it; it may not. I don't use RISC OS on broadband, so I couldn't tell you.

No claims made about accuracy in this post.

[Edited by takkaria at 21:29, 31/8/2003]
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Stuart Bruce Message #46315, posted by stuartbruce at 09:37, 8/9/2003, in reply to message #46060
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Hello

This isn't directly an answer- in fact it's a similar-ish but different question...

In our house we're getting a BT Home Networking modem which supports 2 USB connections (one for the PC, one for a Mac), and also has an ethernet socket.

I have a RiscPC700 which I use for dial-up using the ANT Internet Suite, which has never been networked. Am I overlooking something, or can I just get an Ethernet 10/100T card, fit it to the RiscPC (is that difficult?), and then away I go? Can it be that simple? What have I missed?...

Thanks for any comments

Stuart.
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Mark Scholes Message #46318, posted by mavhc at 11:47, 8/9/2003, in reply to message #46315
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Hello

This isn't directly an answer- in fact it's a similar-ish but different question...

In our house we're getting a BT Home Networking modem which supports 2 USB connections (one for the PC, one for a Mac), and also has an ethernet socket.

I have a RiscPC700 which I use for dial-up using the ANT Internet Suite, which has never been networked. Am I overlooking something, or can I just get an Ethernet 10/100T card, fit it to the RiscPC (is that difficult?), and then away I go? Can it be that simple? What have I missed?...

Thanks for any comments

Stuart.
In theory. Possible problems: Only one of the usb or ethernet sockets will work at once. It'll need DHCP (which means Select, or just just ignore the *need* part and set a static IP). You'll need updated boot stuff, Internet stack etc.
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