Technology news and views http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124487 Great, will be interesting to hear your results, we've toyed with using HarfBuzz and FreeType in NetSurf too. http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124486 Following up Rob's suggestion, we're currently experimenting with HarfBuzz and early results seem promising. Thanks for the suggestion. http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124485 Ah, so the Pinebook is an Allwinner A64, and the Pinebook Pro is a Rockchip RK3399? http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12582&page=1#124484 One way I deal with it is to visit the sites in a Firefox private browsing window and accept (some of) the cookies. I close the private window when I've finished reading, deleting the cookies. http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12582&page=1#124483 When I was at uni the web (http://www..) opened to me a world of information above and beyond the burgeoning Internet which had allowed me to reach like minds for perhaps the first time, outside of libraries and their books, where I lived as a child. It is a wonderful tool. http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124482 (Oh, and for fair performance comparison, also make sure to turn off FreeType's TrueType/OpenType scaffold hinting, bytecode hinting, and subpixel antialiasing, all of which are quite expensive and turned on by default but do yield superior results.) http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124481 The trick is to not use it directly but via a text processing and layout system like HarfBuzz or Pango, these provide the cacheing layer that RISC OS's font rasteriser has built-in. Re-rendering these on-demand makes no sense when we have as much memory as we do these days. http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124479 Rob - it's about 8x slower when used like-for-like at present, using scrolling as a test. Maybe it's not optimised, but like it or not, current freetype coupled with the owb/webkit engine = slooow. We even demo'd as much at the show in Feb. http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124478 OOI, why would you want to use the RISC OS font renderer when FreeType is superior in every way it is possible to be superior in? Last time I checked, its anti-aliased output was even faster, and you can use web fonts directly with it. http://www.iconbar.co.uk/forums/viewthread.php?threadid=12576&page=1#124474 It is a Pinebook , not the pro version. The pro has a different SoC